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Dr. Baxter
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Nov-05-02, 01:08 PM (CST)
 
"Lawsuits and neve injury"
 
   I am a dental expert witness who has reviewed many nerve damage cases. I am convinced that nerve injury occurs more frequently than what is expected in dentistry. I was wondering how many patients were promptly referred to an oral surgeon, and how many individuals were filing lawsuits.


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CT
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Nov-05-02, 03:02 PM (CST)
 
1. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   I originally was injured by an oral surgeon. I asked for a referral and was refused. I was not alerted to the help of medication right away. His recommendation was to soak my mouth in tea or coffee hot water 20 times a day for three months. My neurologist (my MD's referral at MY request 6 months later!) thinks I have an enlarged nerve. Wonder if that has anything to do the nerve trying to heal while it is being SEARED DAILY. Who puts heat on ANY INJURY for three months? Only the initial injury!!! Then ice. He is an uninformed IDIOT. Who is silly enough to try to sue when the informed consent is signed. Ask around, everyone fails or is ignored by the LAW profession. If you are a dental expert witness, don't you already know???? You are likely one the guys who just covers the butt of the doctor. BUT, IF YOU REALLY CARE do your due diligence and help the injured. You'll likely have to put your hand back in your pocket though.
CT used to stand for Can't Talk. Now it stands for Cynical Thought (sorry, can't help myself). Why are you asking here? You can't get real stats here. You are here for another reason I suspect.


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Dr. Baxter
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Nov-05-02, 03:25 PM (CST)
 
2. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #1
 
   Actually, I do plaintiff work, so I am not "covering for other Doctors", thank you. There are competent attorneys who can do well in these cases too. Actually, I would like to get some statistics and write a paper on nerve injury to alert the profession of what can happen (if anyone will publish it).


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CT
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Nov-05-02, 04:45 PM (CST)
 
3. "Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #2
 
   Sorry. Just checking. Some doctors come here just to poke fun at us. Do a search on the main conference page and enter Dr. You'll see what I mean. Everything from "You've all sustained injury because you have a propensity for nerve damage" to "quit wasting our time trying to leech our insurance, you'll never win".

There are some stats available at the American Dental Association and or Maxillofacial Oral Surgeons Assoc. Ross, the moderator of this page will get the names right for you.They tally the number of reported injuries. You may contact Ross directly at the bottom of the conference page. If you are who you say you are, I know that Ross will be more than willing to share his research and experience in this area which is considerable. He is in the medical profession (undisclosed) and has suffered this same injury (lingual). There are interesting links on the home page which may guide you to other sites.

A point of interest and possible precedent is the opinion of the Board of Health in Great Britain has now or will in near future recommend the removal of wisdom teeth (that are not considered to be causing 'real' problems), that it is against public health. Poorly worded but I am in a hurry. This study is and will hopefully be a precedent for other countries. Their data is a good source I guess.
Talk to Ross. He would be more than willing to assist you, I'm sure.

My apology is sincere. Best of luck to you and any of your family who happens to think wisdom teeth are no big deal. That's what everybody thinks isn't it? Wisdom teeth. No big deal. Well, they are a big deal and this is a big story for whomever tackles it. Uncover this professional cover-up and you have a spot on 60 minutes or Dateline or wherever. Wouldn't you be shocked to find out how serious these injuries are especially if you have a teenage son or daughter and you're herding them off to the oral surgeon without a care except that dentist said so, only to come home PERMANENTLY DISABLED and in pain for the REST OF THEIR LIFE with little or no recourse AND NO COMPENSATION.
Please do your best. Get published. Good Luck.

CT


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ROE
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May-02-05, 01:48 PM (CST)
 
250. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #3
 
   I HAD TEETH BLEACHING 8 YRS. AGO IN fLORIDA I FELT A SHARP PAIN GO INTO MY JAW . I HAVE BEEN IN EXCRUCIATING PAIN EVER SINCE I HAD TEETH BLEACH. DENTISTS SAY I HAVE PERMANANT NERVE DAMAGE. I AM COMPLETELY DISABLED. ANYONE CAN CONTACT ME AT MITRA96@ aol.com


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JIM M
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May-12-03, 10:01 PM (CST)
 
48. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #2
 
   I HAD MY TWO LOWER WISDOM TEETH CUT OUT AT THE OHIO STATE SCHOOL OF DENTISTRY. THIS WAS TEN YEARS AGO I WAS SUPPOSE TO HAVE MY TWO UPPERS ALSO REMOVED BUT DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY AT THE TIME. I CHECKED AHEAD OF TIME TO MAKE SURE THE DOCTOR WAS DOING THE SURGERY AND NOT THE STUDENT I WAS ASSURED HE WAS. MY TOP TWO WISDOM TEETH HAD COME THROUGH SIDWAYS AND WERE RUBBING MY GUMS MY BOTTOM TWO WERE IMPACTED AND NOT BOTHERING ME AT ALL. I WANTED THE TOP TWO OUT BUT WAS TOLD BY EVERYONE IN COLUMBUS OHIO THAT I WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN ORAL SURGION. I HAD AN APPOINTMENT SET UP BUT HE WANTED PAID UP FRONT AND I DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE. HE BACKED OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE THATS WHAT SENT ME TO OHIO STATE. I FIGURED EVERYONE I TALKED TO GOT THEIR LICENSE THERE SO WHAT DID I HAVE TO LOOSE. I WAS TOLD BY ALL THE PROFESSIONALS I SHOULD HAVE ALL 4 REMOVED BECAUSE I WOULD ONLY HAVE PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD. STILL ONLY THE TOP TWO WERE BOTHERING ME. I FINALLY LISTENED TO ALL THE PROS AND AGREED TO HAVE THE OHIO STATES DOCTOR REMOVE THE 2 LOWER IMPACTED TEETH FIRST SINCE THEY WERE GOING TO BE MORE DIFFICULT AND IT WAS MY SLOW WORK TIME. I HAD MORE TIME OFF. I WAS THEN TO GO BACK AND HAVE MY TOP TWO REMOVED. THE DAY I WENT IN A WATER LINE HAD BURST. AND THEY WERE CLEANING UP WATER. THEY HAD ME GO INTO A ROOM AND WATCH A CARTOON . IT HAD A CAVEMAN IN IT. IT TOLD HOW WE USE TO NEED OUR WISDOM TEETH BECAUSE WE CAVE MEN USE TO CHEW STICKS AND ROCKS AND NOW THAT WE EAT SOFTER FOODS WE DON'T NEED THEM ANYMORE. (THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE TEACHING FOLKS) AT FIRST I DIDNT WANT ANYTHING TO KNOCK ME OUT BUT THEY TOLD ME IT WOULD BE EASIER FOR EVERYONE IF THEY DID. THEY HAD AN ANTHEST...OLOGIST COME IN AND GIVE ME AN IV. I DON'T REMEMBER GOING OUT BUT I REMEMBER COMING TO AND SEEING SOMEONE OTHER THAN WHO I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO WORK ON ME LITERALLY UP ON THE ARM OF THE CHAIR WITH HIS HAND DOWN MY THROAT. I REMEMBER FEELING PAIN GRABING HIS ARM AND THEN I WAS OUT AGAIN. I WENT HOME AND LIKE SO MANY OTHERS WAITED TO GET BETTER. FIRST A WEEK THEN TWO. I ALWAYS WENT BACK WHEN I WAS SUPPOSE TO I TOOK ONLY ASPRIN. I WOULD BITE MY TONGUE AND BLEED AND NOT KNOW IT. PEOPLE WHOM I WERE EATING WITH WOULD TELL ME I HAD BLOOD RUNNING DOWN MY LIP. EACH TIME I WENT BACK THEY WOULD SET THE APPOINTMENTS FARTHER APART. THEY HAD ME SEE A NERO SERGON HE STUCK NEEDLES THROUGH MY TONGUE AND SAID YOU CAN'T FEEL ANYTHING CAN YOU? I WAS AFFRAID TO GO BACK TO HAVE MY TOP TWO REMOVED. THE ONES THAT ORIGINALLY BOTHERED ME. I WAS TOLD THAT SURGURY WAS RISKY AND THAT MY NERVES HAD BEEN STRECHED AND NOT ALL THE SIGNALS WERE GETTING THROUGH. I WAS TOLD THAT THE LONGER I WAITED THE WORSE IT WOULD BE. I WAS TOLD THAT IT WOULD COST 2500.00 TO REPAIR BUT MAY NOT WORK. I MIGHT JUST FEEL PAIN INSTEAD OF TINGLEING. I WAS TOLD THEY COULD REMOVE A NERVE FROM BEHIND MY EAR OR SIDE OF MY FOOT BUT THEN MY EAR OR FOOT MAY BE NUMB. I WAS TOLD IF I HAD THE SURGURY AND THE RESULT WAS PAIN I COULD HAVE THE NERVES CUT AND I WOULDN'T FEEL ANYTHING. I WAS TOLD TO WAIT A YEAR THEN DECIDE. I REFUSED TO PAY I GOT TURNED OVER TO A COLLECTING AGENCY. I WAITED A YEAR STILL NOT ANY BETTER. I WENT TO MY ATTORNEY. HE ASKED IF I SIGNED A RELEASE. I CHECKED AND FOUND OUT I DID. HE TOLD ME IT HAD BEEN OVER A YEAR AND AND I SIGNED A RELEASE IT WOULD BEHARD TO WIN THE CASE. HE TOLD ME TO CHECK AROUND SEE IF I COULD FIND OTHERS THAT THIS HAPPENED TOO. THIS WAS TEN YEARS AGO. I DIDN'T HAVE EMAIL. THE FUNNY THING IS THE TOP 2 WISDOM THEETH CAME DOWN PERFECTLY STRAIGHT AFTER AWHILE. THEY HAD CAVITIES AND I WAS TO AFFRAID TO GO TO THE DENTIST AND HAVE THEM FILLED. THEY BROKE OFF. I WENT TO ANOTHER ORAL SURGON AND HE REMOVED THEM. HELL THERE WAS HARDLY ANY ROOT. ANY DENTIST SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE. THIS SURGION TOLD ME THAT SOMEONE REALLY HAD TO HAVE SCREWED UP TO DAMAGE BOTH OF MY NERVES. I'VE BEEN BACK TO OTHER DENTIST SINCE BUT NONE SEEM TO KNOW WHAT THE HELL THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. THEY WANT TO DO THIS OR DO THAT. AND MONEY MONEY MONEY.THEY ALL WANTED TO REMOVE TEETH WHICH I STILL HAVE ALL OF. WELL ANYWAY IT'S BEEN TEN YEARS AND I'M STILL MAD AS HELL. NONE OF YOU SHOULD HAVE TO HAVE THIS HAPPENING TO YOU. I DON'T BELEIVE IN SUING BUT THEY NEED TO STRESS THE SIDE EFFECTS 10 FOLD TO THE NEED FOR THE PROCEEDER. THE WISDOM IS IN YOUR TEETH. THEY MAY BE THE ONLY ONES YOU HAVE WHEN YOU GET OLD SO MY ADVISE IS KEEP THEM AND DON'T FORGET TO BRUSH, FLOSS AND PRAY.
JIM M


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DMilot
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May-13-03, 09:51 AM (CST)
 
49. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   Sent ya an email.


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paul p.
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Aug-02-03, 09:08 AM (CST)
 
76. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #48
 
   basically the same thing happend to me with sidway impacted wisdom teeth, nerve damage, the whole thing about 10 years ago or more. i would never have had it done esp. by a student when i was told a oral surgeon instructor would do it . it was the worst experience of my life and it still troubles me today. sorry for your similar experience.


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ROE
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May-02-05, 02:42 PM (CST)
 
251. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   I HAD TEETH BLEACHING ,TODAY I AM DISABLED HAVE BEEN TO ALL THE PROS, SEEN A NEUROLOGIST TO. THEY ALL SAY NERVE DAMAGE ! NO CURE .TRIED EVERYTHING ...NOTHING HELPED . MY LIFE HAS BEEN RUINED.AT FIRST I SEEN A ATTORNEY SAID THERE WAS A LAW SUIT THEN AFTER 6 MONTHES HE CHANGED HIS MIND.....I CANNOT WORK . I HAVE TO TAKE ASPIRIN AND DIAZPAM TO COPE WITH THE SEVERE PAIN. THE DENTIST USED TWENTY PERCENT BLEACH FOR ABOUT 6 WEEKS... SOMETHING THAT WAS DONE FOR AN IMPROVEMENT TURNED OUT TO BE A NIGHTMARE! PATIENTS BEWARE!!!!MY E-MAIL IS MITRA96@AOL.COM


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kekeebler
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May-14-03, 10:11 AM (CST)
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52. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   Dr. B-
Just found this post because of the recent responses to this string. Have you written a paper/how are doing with it? I have actually considered writing a book once my legal woes close..should I ever be able to file a case, that is.
Karen K


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smokesncoke
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Jul-05-03, 06:45 PM (CST)
 
75. "RE%3A Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   i have tried to sue because two years ago i had four rootcanals performed and an extraction and now i have been to 14 doctors regard what they called nerve damage. i have been in severe pain ever since my procedures and living in hell, the pain is so severe i can nolonger take it. i was a happy person before all of this. the dentist who did this is now in drug rehab and took his lince away. my two years is almost up and then i will never be able to sue anyone.all the apin medicine is not working and like i had sai i have been to so may different kinds of dentists and doctors and they all say it is from this produres and someone did something to me. plese help.


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terri
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May-18-04, 10:40 AM (CST)
 
153. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   One year ago, I went to my dentist whom I've been going to since a child (I'm 42 now), and I went last May because I had a severe stabbing pain in my right jaw and face that lasted for minutes and went away, but I assumed it was my right back molar. I went to my dentist and he took x-rays, and he said there was a hole in the tooth and it needed to be pulled. I had no tooth pain again before I went back that Saturday as he said he would pull the tooth.

He numbed me up and as he was prying up the tooth I felt a "shock-like" sensation in my jaw that was extremely painful and he could see it on my face, but I signaled for him to continue and the tooth came out easily. Then subsequently I had to go back because of a dry socket, which he packed, but it was about one day later all my horrible symptoms started.

I had severe twitching in my face and excruciating pain, my paresthesias in all my extremities started, blurred vision, difficulty with speaking, slurred speech, panic attacks, facial numbness, and fatigue. I thought I had a stroke and was off work for 6 weeks.

Now after a year of ruling out multiple sclerosis, stroke, and other medical conditions, I have no diagnoses and currently my neurologist placed me on Neurontin 300 mg a day. All MRI's, CT scans, MRA's, and numerous neurological tests have all been negative but (nonetheless all my symptoms started after having this tooth pulled) which in retrospect I wish I had gone to an oral surgeon instead of my dentist. I am now left with paresthesias, extreme facial pain, headaches, neck pain, tremors, and visual problems because of this. I might have to find a new position in the medical field now because it is affecting my medical transcription position at this time.


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Debbie
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Aug-09-04, 10:05 AM (CST)
 
178. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #153
 
   The shock you felt was a direct injury to a nerve, maybe trigeminal. I had the same problem from a novocaine injection 4 years ago and have had severe burning pain since. Very sorry to hear of your problems. I was out of work for a very long time on and off and this has cost me over $75,000. I am going to a new doctor this month who deals with nerve pain. I was initially told to give it two years for the pain to resolve, but unfortunately mine did not. I wish you luck.


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GG
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Nov-12-04, 00:22 AM (CST)
 
190. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #153
 
   I had a similar thing occur after an injection. Like you I had MRI MRA, EEG, and many other tests. However I had read that often things not picked up on MRI or MRA will show in an MRS test. My Physicians insisted that wasn't true, but after much persistance on my part ran the MRS test and it was abnormal. Perhaps this would be a useful for you to have done.


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numb
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Apr-15-05, 11:16 AM (CST)
 
248. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   did you sue your doctor?


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grace
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Nov-01-05, 07:12 PM (CST)
 
287. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #153
 
   Hi terry

i was just reading your message. I live in NY. In june had my lower wizdom pulled. I had a extraction done with that. I been all over to oral surgeons and oral maxxilfacial and all get is different answer. I feel all they are tryin to do is covering there ass up to advoided the consequences. They told me i have paresthesias. When i went to the maxxifacial he told me it sounds like i had a stroke or my brain is not fuctioning. They will tell u anything. Now i have no sensation on my whole jaw line or cheek. It is something that we have to stay with forever.


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Patricia
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Nov-03-05, 11:20 AM (CST)
 
289. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #287
 
   Grace--
check and see what they gave you for an anesthetic. Was it septocaine or articaine? That is what they gave me, and my tongue has been numb for over a year now,


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tom bair
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Jun-07-04, 11:06 AM (CST)
 
167. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   In what state do you practice law?
ty
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Debbie
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Aug-09-04, 09:39 AM (CST)
 
177. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   I was injured by an anesthetic injection (trigeminal/lingual nerve and also damage to my parotid gland) by an endodontist back in 2000. I have had severe burning on the side he injected ever since. I went back to the endodontist and he claimed he had no clue what was wrong. He knew I was planning to have the tooth he put the root canal in pulled because I thought maybe it was an allergic reaction. He never mentioned nerve damage and every other dentist I have been to said he should have known immmediately what was wrong. I have lost well over $75,000 in lost work, doctor bills and medication and my life has been a living hell. No attorney would take the case even after reviewing my records because they said it was a "assumed risk'. If I can help you with your paper by providing information, I'd be happy to.


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Gina
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Feb-17-05, 07:24 PM (CST)
 
216. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   I am on my fourth month of nerve damage. I am soooo discouraged. I attempted to set up several appointments and I could not find a lawyer interested in the case. My mouth was numb (tongue, no sensation in my teeth, couldn't chew on that side, face pain and drooling and slurred speech. The sensation has dimmed a little. I still can't chew on that side, and I have numb spots on my tongue. Any suggestions?


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Patricia
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Nov-03-05, 11:18 AM (CST)
 
288. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   Gina-

I too have nerve damage to my tongue. It has been this way for a year now. I was given the anesthetic septocaine. My dentist told me first the numbness would last a couple of weeks, then up to 3 months, then 6 months, then a year. Today he told me it could last up to 3 years. In the meantime there is nothing that can be done. Keep in touch with me and let me know if you get any answers on a law suit.


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Dr. B
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Nov-03-05, 05:45 PM (CST)
 
290. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #216
 
   You can email me and tell me how the injury happened and where you are located Jcbax@aol.com


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Brent Adams
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Feb-21-05, 06:04 AM (CST)
 
217. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #2
 
   I am a dental malpractice lawyer in need of a general dentist who will testify that it is a violation of the standard of care for a general dentist to damage the lingual nerve during the extraction of a wisdom tooth.

If you are interested in helping me with this issue, please call me (910) 892-8177.


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side effect
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Jul-03-05, 07:37 PM (CST)
 
272. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   I went to the dentist to have crown work done on my right rear molar.
I was injected with SEPTOCAINE. When I was given the injection I could feel the pain, as if he was hitting a nerve. A temp. crown was put on. Three days later I still have numbness on my right lower lip, chin and jaw and I am still experiancing headaches. The Dentist wants me to call him back next week and if the pain does not go away, he wants me to see a oral surgeon. Is there any hope for me, will this numbness go away?


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Curious
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Nov-23-02, 09:11 PM (CST)
 
10. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #1
 
   Please help me: you mention the use of medication for nerve injury..what medication. Please help!

My dentist had the courtesy of showing me at least several
text books which show that there is a risk each and every time
we receive an injection....most of the time the "parasthesia" will
resolve itself, but takes usually several months, sometimes years.

It is not negligent on the part of your Dentist if you received
numbness as a result of an injection.....the Dentist cannot see your
nerve and has not done anything negligent. It is however, considered
negligent if the Dentist or Surgeon failed to inform you of the
risk involved prior to extraction of teeth which can also cause
numbness......it is not, however, negligent on the part of the Dentist
is numbness results from a procedure.....it is an unfortunate
risk of many procedures, and is equivalent to the many risks
involved during medical surgical procedures etc.


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jono
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Dec-07-02, 03:08 PM (CST)
 
24. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #10
 
   I agree that a doctor is not negligent for causing nerve dmaage, as long as the dentist has informed the patient of the risks specifically related to nerve damage.

My dentist had patients who suffered nerve damage before; one for as long as 15 months, but he did not say a word about any risk to me. If I had been informed, and free to decide, I do not think I would have chosen an injection. And I mean, not him having me laid back in the chair, and as he has the needle in his hand, telling me that there can be risks and numbness lasting longer than usual, .... I mean explaining the risks to me before it is decided by me that there will be an appointment.

I had searched for medications yesterday and found this, fwiw
http://tinyurl.com/3bnu

Jon


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Dr. B
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Dec-07-02, 03:46 PM (CST)
 
25. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   It is considered negligent if a dentist keeps injecting if the patient communicates that the nerve is hit. If the patient reacts as such, the dentist should withdraw the needle and reinsert it in a different path.


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Eleine
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Dec-31-02, 07:52 PM (CST)
 
27. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   I did not know that that kind of pain meant a nerve was hit. How was I to know? Was he supposed to tell me before he injected that if he was in a nerve it would feel like a searing jolt? I told him that it hurt like bleep after it had already happened. I also jumped when it happened.

Eleine


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Dec-18-04, 07:58 PM (CST)
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192. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #25
 
   "It is considered negligent if a dentist keeps injecting if the patient communicates that the nerve is hit. If the patient reacts as such, the dentist should withdraw the needle and reinsert it in a different path. "


The problem with this statement is that most Dentist never explain the risk beforhand. I am 47 years old and not one dentist I have been to has ever mentioned the possiblilty of hitting the nerve so how the hell would the patient know the nerve has been hit if the doctor didn't take the time to explain. I had no idea what the eclectrical jolt I felt in my tongue was. I told my doctor after he withdrew the needle. He still didn't say anything. I want to be informed about my care, medical, dental, vision. When I went in for surgery over a year ago, my surgeon went over the procedure in detail and explained all the risks and what to expect during recovery. It wasn't pleasant but at least I had the knowledge ahead of time of what to expect. Dentists need to start being more open with patients. I posted what happened to me on a dental BB a week ago. They all found it so amusing. One Dentist posted back the remark "Bullseye". Sorry, but my regard for the dental profession has taken a sharp turn for the worse.




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chris
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Jun-16-05, 09:59 PM (CST)
 
262. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #192
 
   When I received the injection, I told my dentist too, right after nearly jumping out of my chair. He did not say a thing... walked away



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Fuji
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Feb-14-05, 07:06 PM (CST)
 
209. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #25
 
   I'm thankful you are here to answer all these questions Dr. B. I have been growing in frustration ever since I had my molar pulled. My dentist gave me the injection strait down and turned inward. It was the worst pain I've ever felt. It had me moaning, squint eyed, arched back, while I squized the ##### out of my own hands. All he said was "sorry buddy" just a little bit longer and kept injecting. The pain was worse that having the decade tooth, so I thought it was infected. I wanted to get a second opinion plus I was affraid of him shooting that same nerve again. I didn't want anyone to touch it. Ended up, I had pieces of bone sticking out of my gums, so the other dentist grinded them down, packed it, and stiched it. Still the pain is almost unbarable, with the shocks being sent from my jaw, up to my temple and around my ear down to my neck. I had even called up my chiropractor to see if I needed adjustment. I called dentist after dentist, they all refuse to see me. Until I found this site, I didn't know why. They're all protecting each other. I tried to see a physician and they said no...I have to see my dentist. So in desperality, I called my dentist. I wanted to mak an appointment but he said I didn't have to come in. He perscribed me anti-biotics and pain killers. In my frustration I went to the ER and they said they could see nothing wrong. They didn't do any test, they just looked at it. I've been missing work for the past 3 weeks because either the pain or I'm too high to think strait. My job is very detailed oriented too. No one wants to see me...who do I call for help? Can I win a law suite? Is there a way to relieve the pain without narcs that are going to cloud my thinking? BTW-I'm located in Hawaii. Thank you to anyone who can give me some direction.


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dental witness
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Nov-05-02, 04:57 PM (CST)
 
4. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   My injury was done on July 16-02. I still am not back to normal. 50% I am 62 so I guess I will have to live with this for the rest of my life. I was given articain (Sepocain) or (Sepodont) is the brand name. If you look on this site they have recorded that there is 22percent more damage with this drug. It was known when it came into this country. There is documentation on this. My tongue is still numbed and I think that it will stay that way. They say the older you are the longer it takes to heal. I was never warned. My dentist stopped using it. Regards Shirleyanna.


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Joel Neally
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Nov-06-02, 11:11 PM (CST)
 
5. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #4
 
   I have had numbness in my tounge for 6 months. I recieved Septicane. My dentist said it was a new drug that worked better. I feel someone from the FDA should look into this. I am only 41 and I hate to think I will spend the rest of my life like this.


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7. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   Joe,

You should file a MedWatch report with the FDA. If they get enough of them, they will investigate.

http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/report/consumer/consumer.htm


Ross


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Advocate
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May-22-04, 01:57 AM (CST)
 
156. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
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   Re: Medwatch
It is important to file a Medwatch report, however the only way FDA can ascertain information that patients symptoms are not abating is through updated Medwatch reports. Patients who sustain Nerve Injury or other adverse events from a drug should first make an initial report. However, if symptoms are still present 6 months later, a year later, and longer continued updated reports that your problems are still ongoing also must be filed with FDA through an updated Medwatch report. This is the way the FDA learns of drugs that cause long term problems, and or permanent injury.

Often times unfortunately FDA despite incidence levels showing in Medwatch reports do not act in a timely fashion with many drug issues. Therefore aside from filing Medwatch initial reports and updated reports, it is also important that patients who sustain such injury write and call FDA to ask for further investigation. Often times it is through both patient and Physician calls and letters that prompts further review of the database of a particular medication.
Also you can obtain through an FOIA request * Freedom of Information Request at FDA a summarized copy of the post marketing reports that have come into their Medwatch database on the drug you received. This will enable you to see the number of cases reported and types of adverse events or injuries patients and their physicians have reported.

When a dental anesthetic is shown to have a higher incidence rate of nerve injury then others in its class, then FDA needs to insure full disclosure on product information, to issue letters to practioners, and patients should receive mandatory informed consent so that they can chose whether they are willing to take such a risk based on informed consent. Without the efforts of victims taking the time to make these efforts, many preventable injuries will continue to occur.


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Aug-06-04, 04:53 PM (CST)
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175. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #5
 
   I was also injected with septocaine, and was not given any warning prior to the procedure. It was not until AFTER the fact, when I went back to my dentist because of the continuing pain, that he showed me the insert that came with the septocaine, and it shows a very small percentage of patients complain of paresthesia after having been injected with septocaine (something like 1 percent). I contacted a representative of the septocaine company who told me that the sensation would only last three months (I am coming up on the three month period here shortly). I don't want to even imagine having to live with this for the rest of my life. I am in constant pain, some days worse than others. My tongue feels too big for my mouth. I have had to be put on antibiotics due to gnawing on the edge of my tongue. When will this end??? We have no recourse?? How can that be?? People have sued for ridiculously stupid reasons and WON!! And we have to live with this?? I can't believe this.........


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Diana Reichardt
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Jan-25-05, 03:05 PM (CST)
 
201. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #5
 
   >I have had numbness in my tounge for 6 months. I recieved
>Septicane. My dentist said it was a new drug that worked
>better. I feel someone from the FDA should look into this.
>I am only 41 and I hate to think I will spend the rest of my
>life like this.


I just went to the dentist yesterday and recieved septicane and the lower left quadrant of my jaw has been numb for over 24 hours. I am 31 and was terrified when i went in today and my dentist said it could be 2 weeks, 2months, or indefinate numbness!!!!


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inconvenienced
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Nov-13-02, 12:13 PM (CST)
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6. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   My lingual nerve was injured by an oral surgeon. Now he is doing monthly follow-ups on me. I was actually referred to a neurologist by my family doctor, but they "can't fit me in." So no one will help me. As I understand it, you can only file a lawsuit if you can prove: 1) your doctor did it on purpose, or 2) he/she is incompetant. Both would be extremely hard to prove. Also, I signed a consent form stating I knew 1% of people would get nerve damage. FYI, I read a document from the UK and they estimated that between 1.3% - 7.8% would get nerve damage from wisdom teeth extractions alone, and between .5% - 1% would have it permanently. If you want the reference, let me know, as I too, am writing an article on this.


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Dr. B
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Nov-20-02, 08:59 PM (CST)
 
8. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #6
 
   Under certain circumstances, a lingual nerve can be damaged during an injection without legal recourse as it is a "blind procedure" and one cannot see the nerve in an injection. However, if the lingual nerve is damaged during an extraction, I feel it is negligent to do so as we are taught to never go into the lingual area at all. It is a good sign that you are being followed however.


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Steven Kelly
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Nov-22-02, 06:55 PM (CST)
 
9. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #8
 
   Last Tuesday I went in for a root canal and my tounge is numb
and feels like I burned it all the time. The dentist was
trying to make sure I felt nothing. I told him I prefer a
little pain to being numb for a day. I wish he had listened.


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Rossadmin
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28. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #9
 
   Steven,

That is the one big complaint that I have with some dentists, they seem to insist on local anesthetics without giving it a try without them.

If you have too much pain and/or make it difficult for the the dentist to do their work, they can always inject you then and continue. Why the rush??

You expressed your preference and were ignored. This should not happen.

Ross


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DMilot
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Nov-25-02, 09:50 AM (CST)
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11. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #8
 
   Dr. B, unfortunately I will never know whether my injury is from injection or extraction because I underwent a general anaesthetic. They give injections into the site to cut down on post- op pain. I will never know. My only beef really is the sugar coating when explaining risk and the denial afterwards. For crying out loud, their arse is covered so why not HELP the frightened injured patient. They have nothing to lose by giving prompt medical attention (medication) and referrals. Many may be candidates for nerve resection but hey ship you out and tell you to wait, meanwhile the clock is ticking. That, THAT I BELIEVE IS NEGLIGENCE AND IF I HAD THE MONEY I WOULD TAKE THEM TO TASK ON THAT ISSUE. I'D STILL LOSE OF COURSE. I'VE LOOKED INTO CASES ALL THE WAY TO SUPREME COURT. IF YOU SIGN A WAIVER, YOU ARE TOAST!!!!!!!! Sure just wish these 'doctors' would just take care of us after the fact. It is a blind procedure so, OK. I can accept that. Just help me afterward!!!!!!!!! don't deny my injury or my pain. HELP US DOCTORS!!!!!!!!!


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Dr. B
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Nov-26-02, 06:21 PM (CST)
 
12. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #11
 
   The lingual nerve should not be damaged during an extraction, period.
Sometimes the alveolar nerve can be. I guess it was an oral surgeon who injured you. What treatment has he suggested?


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DMilot
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Nov-27-02, 10:28 AM (CST)
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13. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #12
 
   Get ready for this OK Dr. B.? And you will understand my sense of outrage. The treatment he suggested was to soak my mouth in boiling hot water (tea or coffee hot) 20 times a day (his so called 'energy soaks'). For 60 days I seared my nerve injury DAILY! My neurologist now thinks I have an enlarged nerve(sheduled for MRI in Jan). Wonder if that has anything to do with it. Who puts heat on ANY injury for that long!!! How can something heal when you are baking the injury??? I was so stupid, but anyway. Thats it. After giving me penicillin to make sure there was no infection, and checking to see that the surgical site was healed he said no you can't have any tylenol 3, see you in 8 months. Oh and NO you can't have an xray to determine if there is a bone chip or any other cause for my pain, even though he owns his own right there in the office. Then I asked for a referral to see someone because my MD said I should get the referral from the surgeon and he said NO! so I said I would go back to my referring dentist (whom I have trusted for 20 years). So he calls my dentist and tells my dentist that he 'has a problem with my pain" and has 'doubts' about it. My dentist then told me that I had nerve damage and that I should stop soaking in hot water and parroting "stay away from tylenol" and live with it. No mention of proper established medication etc.. I will be brief regarding the level of pain i was in (read post DIANA). Not knowing and being left in the dark and not knowing if the pain was to ever subside I began seriously considering the best way to take my life without (without it being too messy because that is just a burden to some poor soul) and was opting for the old garden hose to the tailpipe. Everyone thought I was crazy, people had trouble believing my pain level 10.....9......8.......7....6......7.....5.....8...24 hours a day , 7 days a week for months on end.I almost lost my job and even friends thought I had mental problems. Then as I sat sobbing, sobbing continuosly for 2 hours in public at a neighborhood pub trying to drink away my pain for even a few hours someone suggested I go on-line and find out what was going on. That is how I came here. This site may have saved my life. It got me the medication I needed and the emotional support I was callously DENIED. I have spoken with people who are so outraged at their treatment that some of them want to go back and kill their dentist. One day it will happen (not me!! not alluding or hinting) but someone is going to lose it and then all of this will come to light. Or not. Maybe just a line in the paper, but I would worry if I were a dentist or oral surgeon. I'm guessing he wanted me to slink away because his track record probably isn't good. Or he simply has no conscience. I don't know. I am injured. I have a speech impediment which affects my ability to make a living. I was treated extremely poorly. I have no recourse or compensation. I have pain 2400mg neurontin a day. I am a chronic pain survivor. I did it with the help I found here. I greet the new and frightened here because I knew in my heart when I came here knowing nothing, that my life was at stake. Anyone who comes here and cares is a godsend. Those that come to taunt (Dr. Williams) will not have an easy time here. Thanks Br. B. Thanks to New member CARINGDENTIST. IIf even one person suffers less then we have 'our recourse and we have our compensation'! There is more to every story but ....


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Lori Cardona
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Nov-29-02, 12:10 PM (CST)
 
16. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #13
 
   I just wanted to say sorry about your pain. I am not in pain, but my dentist also did somthing to my mouth when i pulled my wisdom teeth. I now have no feeling in the left side of my mouth, and it has been going on for @ 3 months. I wish that people were aware of all of the consequences that occur with having your wisdom teeth pulled. I was only 22 when i had my teeth pulled, i never realized that with along with the surgery, on of my five senses would be also taken from me. I can not taste hot or cold foods on the left side of my mouth and my senses have dulled to 50% less. This has been a great website for me to go to. I have learned much about nerve and nerve damage, however i wish that my denstist told me the side effects of having my wisdom teeth pulled. I too was thinking about doing a lawsuit, however not too many people who specialize in this field. I am planning a trip to boston, so hopefully i will find a treatment there, and maybe have a case- however the only thing i really want, is feeling back in my tongue,and to be able to taste again.


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Kayla101
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Nov-27-02, 11:00 AM (CST)
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14. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #12
 
   I went to 3 or 4 lawyers and they all told me I had no case because I signed the release. All the money in the world can't help my misery but has anyone sucessfully sued?


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Krystal
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Nov-27-02, 07:06 PM (CST)
 
15. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #14
 
   If anyone wants to sue, they should make sure that they find someone who specializes in Medical Malpractice. To do this, one can go to the ATLA website and find someone there. Also, a good attorney should front expenses for you so you are not out of pocket.

Regarding informed consent, there is NO informed consent for malpractice, so a good attorney can beat this regardless. I have several such cases right now. It is easier to prove negligence if a lingual nerve is injured due to surgery, but I have even got some settlements with injectional injuries. Also, failure to refer properly and timely is malpractice.

It really ticks me off when people get injured and then the DDS or MD won't give them pain meds cause they "might get addicted".


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Vincent Mays
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Dec-26-02, 05:28 PM (CST)
 
26. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #15
 
   Krystal,

If you have any information that can help me to find an experienced attorney please contact me ASAP! You can view my comments in the Lingual nerve damage from injection section. I am in San Jose, CA

Vincent
vdmays@yahoo.com


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BApepe
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Feb-06-03, 05:27 PM (CST)
 
35. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #15
 
   I want to know with the statement.....

Regarding informed consent, there is NO informed consent for malpractice, so a good attorney can beat this regardless. I have several such cases right now. It is easier to prove negligence if a lingual nerve is injured due to surgery, but I have even got some settlements with injectional injuries. Also, failure to refer properly and timely is malpractice.


I sustained this injury during the start of a root canal.....

When you are saying "I have several such cases" are these your cases as an attorney? Would you be willing to speak to my attorney? I can be reached at objtpepe@swbell.net... HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!


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BAPepe
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Feb-06-03, 05:53 PM (CST)
 
36. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #15
 
   LAST EDITED ON Feb-06-03 AT 05:54 PM (CST)
 
You made a statement to research ATLA website. I went to that site and am not able to find anything HELP....


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Lilly M. Long
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Dec-27-03, 04:11 AM (CST)
 
77. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #15
 
   I never there was such an amount of incidents with these type of dental injuries until this month when my feeling never returned after rootcanal. Dentist began rootcanal month ago. Said this jaw tooth had 4 canals. Stopped after three were drilled due to bleeding and could not see to do work. Went back app 10 days later as scheduled to finish. Drilled out all of 'packing' and drilled out 4th canal..Packed all 4 canals. Xrayed. Said had not gotten paking all way to tips. Had to drill and remove all of it and restart. Xrayed again. aid still not all the way to tip of roots but was probably as good as he good get it. Started work in chair @ 8:15. Finished @ 9:45a.m. That night feeling had not come back at all. Called him @ home. Said might take longer than normal to come back as I had required 2 injections to get numb. This was when I was told for 1st time EVER anything about lingual nerve injury, etc. Never heard of it befor. Said in 20 years of dentistry, never had this happen to one of his patients. By Sunday, some feeling back to 'outer gumline' and lip and jaw area. NO feeling to 'inner gumline' or right side of tongue. This is when I had the on fire burning tongue. Excruciating Pain. Called him 4 days later on Monday and went in. Told could take up to two weeks for feeling to come back. Went in again to be seen 10 days later. NO improvement at all. Refilled Pain med Hydroco 10:650. Told this day in 20 years of dental pravtice this had only happened to Four (4) of his patients and only one (1) had parmanent injury. (Different story from last visit. Both stories can't be true. Did he forget what he said before, trying to help me be calm, just saying something posative to certain extent)Said he was going to call a friend of his who was neurologist for phone consult and be back. Left room and returned shortle. Neurologist out for Holidays. Told him to just give me his name and I could call and make appointment with him when he returned. He said he didn't want to put me thru that. "You are already going thru so much with this that my having to deal with other Dr visit and wait, going and waiting in office to be seen and then going home, your whole day would be spent on one Dr visit. Let me do this for you". He said he would contact Neurologist and get phone consult, see what Rx he would recc, Prescribe Rx for me and call me at home afterward. This would 'save' me from having to go to yet another appointment. I think he was just looking out for self? Why not give me the name, or another name?I have bit my tongue SO many times. I can't eat 'real' food as I can't differiniate between a piece of meat and my own tongue, until it is too late. I do seem to have a small amount of very deep feeling in tongue, as last time I was trying to eat a bite ofbeef steak, I took a bad bite into tongue. Top center of tongue had a double sided hunk bit out, still attatched to rest of tongue by the center of it. Rinsed with peroxide, then salt water. Called Dentist. Said I did right thing. The only consents I am aware of signing were authorizations to file ins and guarantee of payment. I have paid my 50%. Nothing ever discussed with me ever about any type of possible nerve damage. Told me I could email him anything I felt might to beneficial to him. I emailed him a homepage on lingual nerve damage with several links, including how to contact State licensure board, judicial matters, treatment options, etc. Into 4th week now. If anything numbness is traveling into R lip area. Also emailed a homepage on this matter to attorney. He called ASAP next a.m., but I missed call. Will get a call from him 1st thing Monday a.m. per his secretary.
My tongue is constant fire, like being in boiling coffee. Even the air that moves thru mouth when breathing feels like slicing knives. Sounds exagerated, I'm sure.
Are you a lawyer, or MD? My own email is ARKangel@centurytel.net
Do you know of any dentist sympathetic to this problem in Mountain Home, AR or West Plains, MO or anywhere in this vacinity? Also that would not fear giving documented report, testimony if needed? I only have this temp packing in tooth right now, which is coming out. Do not trust dentist to finish work, based on him telling me 2 different stories about his track record and not giving me a referral. Almost like 'let's keep this between us thing'.Do you know of any favorable resources for my attorney to contact, expert witness, etc. Would you mind my lawyer emailing you, for any info help you might could give? Not a month into this, I can't imagine PERMANENT condition. Any advise, opinion on my legal standpoint. This may sound sour, but I don't think a patient should have to be expected to have permanent pain caused by someone else of this magnitude(even by unintentional) for nothing. Oh, he did not charge me for the 2 followup visits. All other work has been app $800.00 on this one tooth. I am 44, married and have 5 yong children @ home, which this type of pain will affect everyone somehow. Do you think I have any legal grounds?
I am sorry so long a message, but I did not want to write bits and pieces to several. I felt better insight response to just 'unload' on one person, and you seemed open and knowledgable in this. I read thru many messages for past few days before writing tis. ANY info, advise, referrals, anything at all greatly appreciated.
Thank You. Again you can contact me at ARKangel@centurytel.net
Please send me email if you don't mind when you reply to post. I will put shortcut on desktop for this enet page and hopefully find your notes again. Thank you and God Bless.


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patrick
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Oct-23-05, 03:15 PM (CST)
 
285. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #12
 
   I'm going on my fourth month with half my tongue numb. I notified my dentist the next day after the procedure (crown prep) and went in the next day to see him. He informed me then, and ever since, that there is absolutely NOTHING I can do to help this affliction, that only time will correct the situation. So I'm a little curious why other dentists or oral surgeons are telling people that drugs or anything else will help. Consequently, I've received a bill from him for over $500! I am in no hurry to pay this bill, and if I receive another one, I'm going to call and tell him I'm not paying if and until my tongue numbness goes away. Period.


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Dr. B
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Oct-23-05, 03:41 PM (CST)
 
286. "RE: Lawsuits and nerve injury"
In response to message #285
 
   Because some meds do work and this guy should have been giving you some. Read around and you'll learn a lot. If you do not pay this bill, you could end up at a colection agency and ruin your credit. You should call the office, tell him your tongue is numb and if he does not forgive the debt, you will wage a complaint to the dental board. That should be more effective than just not paying the bill.


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teggypeg
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Nov-29-02, 02:27 PM (CST)
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17. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   Hello Dr Baxter...I had a tooth extraction a year ago...it bled for hours and possible maxilla bone break..I had bone removed from the length of my cheekbone..I could not bite or chew for weeks and it is still painful..I suffered blackouts and dizzy spells since...I think a nerve has been damaged ..I am considering taking legal advice..my usual dentist said it would heal OK...I wonder if you could tell me if it is possible to damage the triginial nerve doing a forceful extraction...Thank you for your time
Teggypeg


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Dr. Baxter
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Nov-29-02, 06:03 PM (CST)
 
18. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #17
 
   The dentist probably tore into your sinus and damaged the trigeminal nerve. There are a number of factors to consider in a suit. Was this dentist an oral surgeon? If the tooth were to be a difficult extraction, you should have been referred. Were you referred to eb followed by an oral surgeon after the extraction? Were you give antibiotics? If the roots were long or hooked, the tooth needs to be sectioned out rather than "pulled" which would decrease the chances of a sinus perforation. Some people have pain and dizziness with this type of injury, and it cannot be easily repaired surgically.


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Teggypeg
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Nov-30-02, 06:29 AM (CST)
 
19. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #18
 
   Dr Baxter..you are a gem ..thank you....best to tell you the whole story...due to other bad experiences..amongst them I have wire in my jaw bone to to a lower jaw break having wisdom teeth removed and a numb mouth ..learnt to live with that..I have always gone to dentist and had been given the all clear..before I had pain !!!!...I put myself on antibiotics ( always keep some as standby for teeth ) fine it cleared up..then the tooth broke and I went to an emergency dentist ..I was surprised she said she would extract it as there was hardly any tooth left..OK be brave..she did not support my head in the proper manner and just held the top of my head ...my lower jaw was moving ten to the dozen with the force she was using...she pushed and tugged..then there was a loud crunch ..relief it was out ...she did not check the socket or advise me to bite on anything..at the time I was just so relieved it was out....I would say it bled a fair amount for at least 7 hrs...I did not investigate untill the next day ..the bone that was broken was across my gum line the length of my cheekbone..this was removed by my usual dentist (who I have no faith in either )..I did not look at the size of the bone..best not to !!I could feel a cracked bone in the area next to my eyetooth so back I went my dentist pulled and pulled on this and then said he was pulling on bone...leave it to heal...was that painfull!!...I asked him why I felt so rough he said perhaps the sinas was affected...it was about a month later I was walking into town ..very tired after work...my vision started to go ..my legs and breathing...after a few minutes ..it was as though a veil had been lifted from my eyes...returned to work and told one of the doctors there..he just said ..are you OK now !!!...it happened again a week later...I have been dizzy..giddy..off balance and blurred vision at varying rates since..it seems to be inside my head on the side of the extraction ( whoops forgot to say I had pain and swelling cheek area by the side of my nose and I still have nueralga..my docs have put it down to overwork ..I finished one job ...inner ear...tests OK...further damage to my neck ..eg cervical vertigo..ortho said arthritis in my neck not enough to cause the symptoms and wants MR scan ..cant have one due to wire...I also have pain in jaw joint and deep into my right shoulder ??...I also have Graves going on burn out which is not helping....I reckon a neurologist might be the best man to see...who would you advise..how can they find out if this nerve is damaged...but I am a great believer in reflexology..and the pain in my big toe is the trigeminal nerve area...the pain I can cope with but living on a roundabout not pleasent...I do not have high blood pressure so doubtful I had mini strokes...Sorry its so long and some is repeated...any hope with accupuncture ?? and I need another tooth out ...HELP !!
Teggypeg


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Dr. Baxter
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Nov-30-02, 09:28 AM (CST)
 
20. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #19
 
   Best to see a neurologist now I think. The problem is that an MRI would be the best way to go. Make sure you tell the neurologist about your dental experiences. You could also have a low grade chronic sinus infection which flares up and makes you sick and dizzy.
Tell him that too. If you need any more teeth extracted go to an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon. Do NOT let another generalist take out any more teeth! If the neurologist thinks this goes back to dental sources, email me and I will try to help you with a legal case.
Get your dental x-rays and keep them in a safe place in case you need them in the future.


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LC
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Nov-30-02, 11:14 AM (CST)
 
21. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #20
 
   Dr Baxter,
Out of curiosity where are you from? Any chance you are from ny? It is awesome to see dentists caring like patients like you have done...


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Dr. Baxter
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Dec-01-02, 10:09 AM (CST)
 
23. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #21
 
   I am in Chicago, and I practice here, but I am involved in legal matters throughout the US. However, I can't be of legal help in the UK or out of the country as I do not know how the system works anywhere but the US.


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nina
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Jan-05-03, 06:53 PM (CST)
 
29. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #23
 
   Dr. Baxter, if you have time to reply to me, my story is that I had a tooth overfilled since May 2002. I have been from doctor to doctor, the tooth is no longer there, but, the overfill is still in the nerve canal. I am still suffering from the pain and numbness. I was initially to have "microsurgery" back in September, but, the insurance denied the facility that wsa going to be used and then they denied that it was a medical claim after I found a different doctor, who was in the network and used a network facility. It took them two months to deny the claim again. Now it is a battle between the dental and medical insurance claim management people. We are now in 2003 and I am still in the same condition I was after being overfilled. My concern is that I was told by the first oral surgeon that this procedure needs to be completed as soon as possible to allow a better chance of recovery. By denying the procedure my recovery window is rapidly closing. Can you e-mail me your opinion of this matter at the following address: Sniper141@sbcglobal.net

Thank you,

Nina


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LexiDobe
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Jan-20-03, 08:47 PM (CST)
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30. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury/Dr.B- Chicago"
In response to message #23
 
   Hi Dr.B! I'm new to this site. I am so thankful to have found it. Seems like a great group of people who post here. Unfortunate that we are brought together due to these circumstances.

I sustained what I believe to be lingual nerve damage during an oral surgery procedure (performed by an oral/maxiofacial surgeon) on Thursday, 1-16-03. The right side (especially tip) of my tongue is still numb, fells 'hairy', burns when I brush it, can't sense hot or cold temps...etc.

I remember feeling that 'jolt' of pain when being injected the second time. When I jerked on the table, he said just relax Hun, you'll be ok. Continued to inject. I had no idea that he (I can only assume) hit the lingual nerve- or the effects!

He also performed a very forceful extraction. He drilled so hard and leaned into the drill that particles flew into my eyes. I had to shut them to keep the debris out. The assistant (standing on the other side) had to hold my jaw because he was pushing so hard that tensing my muscles to keep it in place wasn't enough to keep it from moving to the side as he pushed, pried, dirlled...etc. After the procedure, the assistant wiped blood from my face- eyebrows, forehead, cheeks, chin. The surgeon was spattered with blood on his mask and coat. I saw him changing it (coat) before he saw the next patient. Quite traumatic, but didn't realize it until a day or so after procedure.

Anyway, I see you are in Chicago. Wondering if you know of someone that you could refer me to? I don't even know where to go from here. I go back to him on 1-23 to have stitches removed. He said he would examine the tongue at that time. I'm afraid to even go back to have stitches taken out. When I talked to him on the phone post-op about the tongue being numb, he said the stitches are going to be tough to remove because it was a 'real hard twist'. Any idea what that means???? I'm in the Chicago area also. Please- any advice, recommendation, referral GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks!

J


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Dr. B
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Jan-21-03, 06:14 PM (CST)
 
32. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury/Dr.B- Chicago"
In response to message #30
 
   Please email me at Jcbax@aol.com


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walter
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Feb-22-04, 05:38 PM (CST)
 
106. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #23
 
   Dr. B. I went in for 2 root canals and 2 extractions. The most difficult proceedure was a wisdom tooth that was growing back to front below the gum, thereby applying detrimental pressure to the molar in front of it. The first three proceedures were a success in about 45 minutes. (the work was being performed on 32,31,30,and29)At any rate, the extraction went on and on for about 2 hours and 15 minutes. The dentist becoming quite tired and frustrated. Finally after removing only 15% of the wisdom tooth he said that my jaw had been open for too long and I would need to go to an oral, maxillofacial surgeon because it appeared that the root tips were fused together. Later that day I called the office to make him aware that the anasthesia had worn off but that I could not feel the right half of my tongue or the inner gum line on the right side of my lower jaw. He initially dismissed it as bruising due to the difficult nature of the procedure. I recalled that evening the doctor repeatedly and almost irritably calling for suction as he was in the process of opening a window of access through the gum to the tooth. The next day he called me in to the office on his day off and examined my tongue, after which he immediately requested that I make haste to the OS with no delay. The OS examined me and told me he felt that given the whatfors by my dentist and me it was his determination that my lingual nerve had been severed during my proceedure the day before. Keep in mind that neither procedure or exam were charged to me or mt insurance. That had all occured on the 3rd and 4th of this month. Iwent in for microsurgery on the 18th of this month (Feb) being told only that the possibility of full recovery was very slight if at all. this was the first time my situation had been given any pre warning so far. Icame out of surgery not only with the lack of any feeling in my tongue or inner gums but additionally I have no feeling in my chin, lip, teeth, or outergums all on the right side of my mouth. I am being prescribed small incraments of pain and sleep medications but only enough to keep me from oing postal at one of their offices. The final straw to this stoy is that I m an equipment operator and am unable to perform my duties as a result of my inability to focus. Please tell me that there is something that I can do to protect myself as well as my family. My E-mail addressis fenglish45@charter.net


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kyoung
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Feb-17-05, 11:38 AM (CST)
 
213. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #23
 
   I am currently suffering from effects of a "terrible" anthesheic injection from my dentist so he could do a root canal. I felt a shock when the needle was injected but didn't know why. After the injection, I felt numbness in my toungue. Called dentist, said should go away...luckily that pain did subside but now I experience numbness along side of my jaw, my ear gets hot( like a burning sensation) and sometimes i feel like tingling through my jawline. I even experience burning in my scalp. I even experience jolts of itchiness throughout my body. My doctor said it sounds like hives so i'min 180mg of allegra. Funny thing is all of this hives and everything occured after this terrible shot. Oh.. when i take my allegra I don't experience any numbness or burning in the scalp or jolts of itchiness over my body. Don't know what's going on. this has been ever since 9-03. Hope this is not permanent damage. Do you think that my burning scalp(only happens when i brush my hair) has anything to do with a nerve that my dentist may have damaged that connects to my scalp?


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Teggypeg
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Nov-30-02, 12:14 PM (CST)
 
22. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #20
 
   A Big Thank You for listening and taking time to answer....unfortunately I live in the UK and as far as I know all dental records and x-rays are the property of the health authority..I will find out about it ...I may also write again to the dentist who did this and ask for a referral to the dental officer...in the meantime I will ask to see a neurologist...I doubt if it is a sinus infection I have not had a cold for two years but then you never know
I will keep in touch..pity not more like you around
Teggypeg:-)


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Marina
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May-24-03, 05:32 AM (CST)
 
63. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #22
 
   Hi Teggypeg

I am also from the UK - I live in Northern Ireland - I had micro surgery in January 2002 in Royal Hallamshire Hospital in Sheffield.

How are you getting on with your compensation claim?

Have you been permanently damaged or have you had a successful operation to try and repair.

E-mail me please @ marinaconnor@hotmail.com

I look forward to hearing from you.


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Randi
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Jun-14-03, 08:01 AM (CST)
 
68. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #19
 
   Are you able to get a Bone Scan? If yes, get a 3 phase bone scan. Have you had a pana(flex)(sp) x-ray? the one that goes all the way around? Perhaps you have a deep underlying infection. A lot of your symptoms sound like what I had(have) a bone/bone marrow infection. Mine started with a porcelain veneer placed on front tooth - which led to trigeminal nerve pain for a year. I am FINALLY feeling relief. I am suing. I NEVER signed inform consent for ANY procedure and I ended up with 7 (teh last two of which saved my life!) - 2 root canals, an apicoectomy, tooth extraction, 2 debridements and bone removal. It's been hell!!! The dentists plain suck. They know but don't say anything. The hospital of the university of PA saved me. Within 5 minutes they had me diagnosed where 10 other specialists consisting of dentists, oral surgeons, neurologists and 2 other hospitals and er rooms had failed me. I am NOT tying to frighten you. There is a great chance what you have can be fixed - it just might be an infection. I was at home with a PICC line for 3 1/2 months and that cleared the infection. I have been dealing with the aftermath of all of it. No front tooth - still pain, exposed roots because gum tissue had to be removed, will need braces because teeth shifted. I should be getting my second flip tooth in 3 weeks (been in the house for a year.. did I mention my first year wedding anniversary is coming up in 2 days?! -- yes. I am angry - this happened during my first year of marriage and I had a miscarriage due to the infection/stress. I hate that dentists DO NOT Help with the aftermath - if they cause something then ADMIT it.. be human. No wonder it is the dentists that have the highest suicide rate of professions <giggles>... then feels bad for giggling.


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LBO
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Jan-21-03, 03:52 PM (CST)
 
31. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   Dr. B- I was wonding if you have any opinion on my situation. I am 23 and had my wisdom teeth removed about 5 weeks ago. My teeth were very impacted. Both the top and bottom were removed, and I was told by Dr#1 that the lower ones would require bone graphs. During the surgery (by an oral surgen referred to me by my dentist) I was awake about 90% of the time even though I was given the max. amout of anesthesia allowed. The whole time I was terrified, in pain, and very uncooperative. There are two doctors in the practice so the next visit I saw Dr2 (the one who had not done the surgery). He packed the bone graphed lower right area with a tiny peice of gauze with some numbing stuff in it. This was maybe within 6 days of the surgery. Then I came back in a few days. Saw Dr2 again, I told him I had to remove the gauze peice myself the other day because The pain was even worse then before. I asked about some tiny peices I noticed in my mouth and if those were the bone graphs coming out. He looked puzzled, **"oh, they did graphs on you?" and left to go look at my chart. Ok, so he didn't know when he packed that area that it was a bone graph. He said that yes, the tiny peices are the bone graph rejecting and gave me some pennicillin cause he said there was a bad infection going on with the two lowers. I go back and see dr#1...first time since the surgery. He pokes around some and I tell him I am still in pain, but was told this is just the process of bone rejection. **"Who told you that??"- He leaves the room looking a bit annoyed then returns with the chart and tells me he wants me to start on amoxocillin which is stronger and will hopefully kill the infection. During all this I am constantly applying moist heat and whatnot. Ok, then I see Dr#2 again. He says (this is about 3 weeks after the surgery) that there is no more puss. The infection has apparently cleared. Cut to present day (5 weeks from surgery). I have numbness and achy discomfort on both sides of the gum line. My tounge is also slightly numb on both sides. My face has become slightly swollen again (within the last week). I have spoken to the top OS in Florida and was told that it is very unusual that I received a bone graph. He sees no reason for it. I feel that the fact that I recived such incompetent treatment afterwards (**the two occasions I was treated w/o the the doctors looking at my chart before treating me) and since I have been told I should not have recived the bone graphs in the first place gives me a solid basis for a case. I am seeing another specialist tomorrow to find out the extent of the nerve damage. Any thoughts?


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littlebit
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Feb-05-03, 12:29 PM (CST)
 
33. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   I WENT TO HAVE A TOOTH PULLED THAT WAS BOTHERING ME DEC 17,03 I WENT TO A DDS HE NUMBED AND NUMBED MY MOUTH BUT NEVER COULD GET IT NUMBED ENOUGH TO PULL MY TOOTH SO NOW IVE ENDED UP WITH THE TOOTH AND A NUMBED TONGUE AND GUMS ON MY RIGHT SIDE OF MOUTH HE PUT ME ON A 12 DAY SUPPLY OF PREDISONE AND THAT DIDNT HELP ONE BIT SO HES PUT ME BACK ON PREDISONE FOR ANOTHER 12 DAYS WHO NOWS IF THAT WILL HELP OR NOT IM BEGINNING TO THINK IM PERMANTLY DAMAGED IF ANYBODY GOT ANY INFO FOR ME POST IT HERE OR EMAIL ME @ AGRAVELY102@YAHOO.COM......OH YES WOULD LIKE TO NO IF CAN SUE???


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BAPepe
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Feb-05-03, 08:33 PM (CST)
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34. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   I am searching for a dental expert. When you state you are an expert can you explain what type of expert? I have damage that happened during a dental procedure. I really need help and keep running into walls. How can I make contact with you to research further. This is the second message I posted and am not sure if you would be able to contact me at a home e-mail. if so e-mail opjtpepe@swbell.net. I have the chemical names and my history since the procedure documented.... help!


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RW STALEY
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Mar-25-03, 10:01 PM (CST)
 
37. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #34
 
   I am an oral surgeon and also an attorney. I have been involved with plaintiff lingual nerve injury cases for years, as an expert witness and as a lawyer. Please contact me for indivual situation discussion at
503-399-4743 R.W. Staley, Jr. D.D.S. J.D.


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B Pepe
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Mar-30-03, 07:54 PM (CST)
 
38. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #37
 
   I had a root canal done almost two years ago and I’ve been numb on the left side of my face and left side of my tongue and not taste on the same side. I live in constant pain ever since the procedure. It may be from the injection for septocaine or articaine the numbing agent uses. Please contact me at my e-mail address objtpepe@swbell.net or call me at my home phone 817-467-2313

B Pepe


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Alice
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Apr-06-03, 08:46 AM (CST)
 
39. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #38
 
   Dr. B,

Did you consider suing after the back injury you suffered? I noticed you started supporting informed consent after that, and that you went to a pain clinic for treatment. Did any lawyers confront you at the pain clinic, asking into your reason for being there and offering to "represent" you?


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Dr. B
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Apr-06-03, 08:56 AM (CST)
 
40. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #39
 
   This is an old injury which acts up, sometimes very badly. Actually, I wish I had sued when it originally occured, but I didn't know it would dog me for life (I was young and dumb!).


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Justin
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Apr-06-03, 12:02 PM (CST)
 
41. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #40
 
   Alice,

I've just been a spectator but I had to say--I know what you mean....it makes me so hoppin' mad--people who narcisstically use and try to take advantage of people in their moments of vulnerability, under the guise of helping. Try to use them for their own financial and/or emotional reasons, very narcissistic, under the guise of helping. These so-called helpers really hate empowerment and true healing and wellness in others, and feed off misery, because it maintains their positions of false power. I'm not saying all lawyers are like this, but there's a lot of this element. Very maddening.


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Dr. B
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Apr-06-03, 01:53 PM (CST)
 
42. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #41
 
   I've worked with some lawyers who really cared about their clients and others who could care less. In the end though, if the lawyer is
competent, the client should end up with some money.


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Alice
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Apr-06-03, 04:04 PM (CST)
 
44. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #40
 
   Dr. B----That helps explain a lot of your anger. So, you went into the hospital in a lot of pain, and they didn't help, or you ended up in worse pain after the visit, from a botched visit? How did your initial injury occur? From an accident? From a back surgery gone wrong? Please try to answer these questions honestly.

Part two: Besides being "young and dumb", what other reasons can you give for a person not taking the litigation route? I know for myself, I'm more interested in getting better than getting even. And even the amount of money I would get IF I won a lawsuit (which rarely seems to happen) would be a short-lived victory and wouldn't come close to the liberation I would feel at restoring the nerve. I just wish a doctor would join us here who was working in the field of nerve regeneration and working to help restore us in the fuller sense.


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reesatay
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Apr-05-04, 08:41 PM (CST)
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132. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #44
 
   LAST EDITED ON Apr-05-04 AT 08:43 PM (CST)
 
Alice,

For me it comes down to money. It would probably cost me more then what I could win. No lawyer wants to take my case because of this and I don't want to waste my own money to prove a point. Sometimes you just have to fold your cards and let it go. I have to focus on healing and use my money for the treatments I need.

Another problem is that in most states the usual statute of limitations to file a case is 1 year. In California you can extend it with a letter stating you intend to file a case, but that only give you three more months. This isn't much time to get your medical and legal issues taken care of.

Speak to several lawyers to see if you have a case. The lawyers you speak to will be brutally honest with you about your possible case. It all comes down to money and how hard it will be to prove the dentist screwed up.

The liberation you speak of from being healed from your injury is what I dream of and imagine we all do. Money will not make your nerve heal, but it does allow you to get the treatments that help you find comfort and relief from it. I say if you can sue then do so.

Good luck

"T"


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Paula Cross
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May-13-03, 09:50 PM (CST)
 
50. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #40
 
   Hi
On Aug 1 I had and injection for a crown the first injection I felt resistance. I called the dentist the next day and he said I must of hit a nerve it will be 2 mos. well it has been 9 months. After a week I saw the oral surgeon and he said 2 to 18 mos. After I came home being an Ortho-Bionomy Practitioner I washed my hands and started working on points in my mouth also holding my tongue on both sides it helped allot so I do this daily or more if I have time. There is Practitioners in the Chicago area this is a must for your back check out the web site www.ortho-bionomy.org. I am thankful to have found this web site. This has been a painful ordeal. Ortho-Bionomy in my mouth gets blood flow to the point and some mornings I wake up it almost feels normal then as the day goes on it gets to be painful. So I just work on myself. I have had a physical therapist do ultra sound on my jaw is this safe? I am seeking to find someone to help me sue also. I hope you go to see anOrtho-Bionomy Practitioner its gentle and you'll be gled you did. Paula Cross


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Dmilot
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May-14-03, 09:18 AM (CST)
 
51. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #50
 
   Paula, is your injury to your tongue and gums aka lingual nerve damage? Are you experiencing any numbness and or pain.? Could you please describe your symptoms in relative detail? I would like to increase the blood flow in my tongue/jaw/gums and you have piqued my interest a bit. Thanks.


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Paula Cross
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May-14-03, 10:05 PM (CST)
 
53. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #51
 
   Hi Dmilot
I am an Ortho-Bionomy practitioner and although I haven't had training in my mouth from what I have learned I just do points in my mouth. I wash my hands and then I start by placing my thumbs in the roof of my mouth resting my hands on my face. after a few seconds I move to other pts. I also take my index finger to the back of my tongue and if I find a tender spot I put a little pressure and wait.I also go to the center of my tongue and push very gently back while I push my tongue out like doing an isometric. I also take all four fingers on each side of my tongue and lay back relax and just hold some time you will feel a gentle pulse this is blood flow.I have pain in my bottom and top gum so on the bottom I place an index finger on sight of injection and one index finger on outside of jaw matching fingers point to point wait you may feel a pulseing maybe not just keep working. Work the whole inside of mouth. I also do the Tmj joint on the outsides. Hope this is helpful let me know. Paula prcross@frontiernet.net


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Dmilot
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May-15-03, 03:06 PM (CST)
 
54. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #53
 
  
Thanks Paula. I will try these things and see if I can feel the blood flow. You didn't mention if you have lingual numbness, tingling, pain or al or what. Just curious if you want to share. I have all the above in gums , 1/2 tonge and right jaw. I swelling going on and wonder if it a blood flow issue? I'll get back to you. thanks again. Interesting.


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Randi
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Jun-14-03, 08:25 AM (CST)
 
69. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #54
 
   Hi Dmilot,

Perhaps you are a candidate for Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy? This increases blood flow greatly. I was going to have it done, however my osteomyelitis responded to IV antibiotics. Now I am waiting for my trigeminal nerve to heal - oh what fun !

Check out HBOT: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=hyperbaric+oxygen+therapy

Randi


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Paula Cross
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May-15-03, 10:40 PM (CST)
 
55. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #51
 
   Dmilot
Yes I have pain and numbness in tongue and gums. The first injection I felt him go in deep and finally resistance this being the nerve then a zing and pain. I hope I can still try to file legal action. If you know how I can proceed plese advise. thanks Paula prcross@frontiernet.net


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Switzer
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Apr-16-04, 10:41 PM (CST)
 
142. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #38
 
   Hello
The same thing is happening to me. What is happening to you now? Has your situation improved?


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theresa
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Mar-28-04, 01:17 AM (CST)
 
128. "neve injury"
In response to message #37
 
   I have a couple of questions for you and would like to know if you can give me some advice. A year ago I had some crowns put in over my real teeth. I would say 2 wks later I felt ear pain and after that roof of mouth pain. Roof of mouth pain got a little better. Recently went back to oral surgeon had extraction by sinus and another extraction on upper right side. Also my general dentist gave me 5 injections to my jawbone and only managed to get the tongue numb but not the tooth itself which was at the bottom left towards the front teeth. My question to you is this, I felt jolts to the tongue for at least 3 wks, lots of burning pain, and now I can not touch upper and lower teeth together without pain and I am getting a funny sensation at the roof of my mouth again and I also hear popping sounds when I talk which does not feel like the jaw joint. I was told this is myofacial pain. I am concerned as to what this is. When I talk my tongue feels tight, and I get this tight feeling in the lower teeth and gumline. Is this nerve damage in any sort. I have never experienced such weird sensations. The oral surgeon told me to wear a night guard because they said this is contributed to clenching and grinding. All the nightguard does is hide the pain I think. When I take it off I feel the pain again at the bottom of the mouth and the teeth and gums feel tight. I am so confused and scared. Any advice might help


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Sam
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Apr-06-03, 02:23 PM (CST)
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43. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   Hi Dr. Baxter,

My injury was the third week of February. My
dentist is referring me to an OS tomorrow. He
says he's never seen a lingual nerve injury, but
has seen the other kind (Inferior Alveolar).

Is the referral to an OS 8 weeks later considered
prompt ? When my dentist told me he thought I had
lingual nerve damage, (5 weeks ago) he also said it
would probably get better on it's own in time.

Because the injury happened at his hands, I feel
he's obligated to pick up the cost of the OS and
whatever future treatment this injury necessitates.
If he agrees to this, then I will not seek a lawsuit.
He's a really nice guy and his kids (twins) are in
one of my children's school classes. Hopefully,
it won't come to having to file a lawsuit in order
to get this taken care of. My hopes are that it
will go away on it's own and I'm encouraged to that
end. Just in the last 48 hours I think I'm having
less tingling and numbness.

Take Care,
Sam


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Dr. B
unregistered user
Apr-06-03, 09:28 PM (CST)
 
45. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #43
 
   Your dentist is acting responsibly and I think he'll proabably pick up the Oral Surgeon's tab, if not you certainly can tell him you feel that he should. You actually sound like you are recovering however, so I hope that you will not need any treatment.


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Sam
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Apr-08-03, 09:45 PM (CST)
 
46. "RE: For Dr. B..."
In response to message #45
 
   Thanks for your prompt response, Dr. B.

I have the referral, but I think I'm going to
have to press a little harder to get my
Dentist to offer to pay for the specialist.

Thanks so much for the words of encouragement
on my recovery. I'm hoping it's complete and
nothing futher needs to be done. I'm totally
scared now to have anything done that involves
another injection of any kind.

Take Care,
Sam


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Dr. B
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Apr-09-03, 03:27 AM (CST)
 
47. "RE: For Dr. B..."
In response to message #46
 
   Make sure to go to the oral surgeon and do as directed even if you have to pay. If this would go to suit and you did not follow up, the defense would blame you for not doing so. (Not fair but I know the game).

Do tell your GP you feel he should pay, as he caused the problem. If you incur any bills and he won't, first complain to the local dental society and the Department of Education and Regulation in your state prior to thinking of a suit. Letters from DER are very scary to professionals.

From your symptoms, I think you are on the mend, but best to follow protocol till you are sure.


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Chris
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May-17-03, 08:46 PM (CST)
 
56. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #0
 
   on May 7th, 2003, i went in to my dentist to have 2 cavities on my lower right side filled. i informed the dentist that i hadn't been to a dentist in at least 10 years, sad but true.

when it came time to do the work, he asked me if i remember being numb when i had cavities as a kid, i said yes, i remember novicane . that was it, end of discussion. open wide and here it comes. i don't know what he injected me with, and i had no idea what to expect. during the injection, i think he did it twice, i felt a firey sensation in the right tip of my tongue. it made me wince, and grunt, and grip my chair pretty tight. but he kept going because i didn't realize how serious it was at the time. after that i can remember feeling liquid go into my jaw, weird feeling. so my face shut down as normal, i couldn't speak for the rest of the night, very intense.

2 days later, May 9th, i went back to him with a concern. i couldn't taste anything. he said that it's happened to him before, and it will heal. it could take several months, but it will heal. that was it. no other info. so i left, relieved that it would get better.

it's been almost 2 weeks now and nothing has changed, except that i feel a slight burning sensation along the side of my tongue. still no taste. where do i go from here? how can i know if this is permanent? what are the dangers of using the steroids that people on this board have mentioned? what are my legal rights? how do i convince my wife and daughter that dentists aren't bad people?

thanks for any help, you can email me at claflin@outrage.com

chris


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Dr. B
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May-18-03, 08:20 AM (CST)
 
57. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #56
 
   You must indicate to the dentist that the nerve is hit and he should stop injecting. He may have thought you were just anxious about the injectionas you had not had one for 10 years. Most people recover, but get to an oral surgeon and have this followed up. You wife is old enough to make her own mind up about dentists, but it would be most unfortunate for your daughter if you passed the fear or anger against them to her.


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Chris
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May-18-03, 10:19 AM (CST)
 
58. "RE: Lawsuits and neve injury"
In response to message #57
 
   thanks. i'm not scared, or angry over this. i'm frustrated. i'm only 26 years old. i decided to get my oral hygiene in order so that my 2 year old daughter would learn good habits. i don't intend to change that path, just dentists

i will follow up with an oral surgeon. is the steroid treatment recommended? honestly, i don't want to go that route. but if it's the only way to get back to normal, than i'll do it. i figure i've got quite a few years left, would be nice to be able to taste things.

one more question, how was i to know what it felt like to hit the nerve? i was no older than 16 last time i saw a dentist, and that was only for x-rays and a check up. should professionals really expect and assume that laypeople know what is going on?