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mjadse
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"Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
 
   I've had nerve damage from an injection by my dentist for about 8 years now. It happened when I was having a root canal on a molar and the dentist hit the nerve (I jumped from the chair) while giving a lidocaine injection.

Unfortunately, the dentist recommended no treatment and kept telling me it would get better on its own. (I no longer see that dentist.) I was miserable for about one month- couldn't talk or eat because I was in such pain. The pain did get continually better for about a year but it has not changed in the last 7 years.

My symptoms are similar to those described here. It's on the right side of my tongue: burning, tingling, pinching, vice-like pain. Luckily it does not wake me, but I am aware of it for most or my waking hours. When it gets extremely unbearable, it can be relieved by chewing gum. I do not want to take pain medication.

I have been to several other dentists, an oral surgeon, and a nerve specialist who say there is nothing that can be done. After reading here, I see there are some options. Thank you to the person who hosts this website and to all who have posted with ideas. I'm going to scour these threads to see if anything can help me.


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  RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. bowho Dec-03-08 1
     RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. mjadse May-13-09 2
         RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. bowho May-13-09 3
             RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. Bob May-14-09 4
         RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. pim May-14-09 5
     RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. mjadse May-14-09 6
         RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. bowho May-14-09 7
         RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. Bob May-14-09 8
             RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. nervousmom May-24-09 9
                 RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. Bob Sep-18-10 10
  RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. mjadse Oct-17-10 11
     RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years. eastbay1194 Mar-01-11 12

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bowho
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1. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   I have the same injury on the same side for 7 years now.. Same killer lidocaine shot for molar extraction .. I have numbness on top of the rest.. I dont chew gum anymore mainly because of the numbness and the tongue biting... and i dont chew food on that side either mainly because if i try too it creates a feeling in my tongue that i DONT want to feel anymore EVER!!! So i guess not chewing anything is when i feel most relaxed these days.. I see others here who dont have the numbness and say they get relief with chewing gum and eating also... Who knows whats up with that ? But i do know that i got the most relief when i had scar tissue removed from the damaged area.. That was an option i ran into after several dentists told me that there was nothing to do for it either.. I hope something around this site helps bring you better days? Good luck


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mjadse
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May-13-09, 01:48 PM (CST)
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2. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   I just went to a doctor who described two treatments. Has anyone tried these lately?

1. Gabapentin- A drug originally developed for treatment of epilepsy. Used to relieve neuropathic pain.

2. Physical therapy- TENS (Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation) for jaw/tongue nerve pain.


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bowho
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May-13-09, 04:31 PM (CST)
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3. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   I took neurontin for several years. It started to work after i got up to 600mg every 6 hours. For me it only relieved the vice grip feeling on my jaw a little,for about an hour after each dose. If you can get used to side effects and it works for you then take it... some relief is better than none!!

http://www.healthcentral.com/bipolar/news-279150-98.html


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Bob
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May-14-09, 08:20 AM (CST)
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4. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   I see we're back. Not much change in my paresthesia from my last posting but I continue to do the same therapies for it. Using a TENS is one of the devices I use. Also picked up a piezo electric device that sends an electrical charge or spark into the skin wherever you apply it. It also seems to help a bit with my burning pain. I use it inside my jaw directly over the area where the dentist injected me.


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pim
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May-14-09, 09:10 AM (CST)
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5. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   I took Neurontin (Gabapentin) off and on for 2 years. There are studies that say it doesn't work. Sometimes I thought it did, others I didn't. I finally stopped taking it because it made me stupid.

I also tried TENS and it didn't help. I think there is a school of thought that you shouldn't use this. I'd do some research on it before you do.

Look into Elavil (amytriptilin sp?) or Doxepin (less side effects). It has been my life saver but it took me over a year to get used to the drowsy side effects of Elavil.

My damage is not to the tongue but to the lip and chin but the results are the same - numbness and burning.


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mjadse
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6. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   LAST EDITED ON May-14-09 AT 09:58 AM (CST)
 
(sorry if this post is out of order- for some reason, I can't see later posts or reply to them. I had to go to "Printer-Friendly copy" in order to see them.)

bowho- what side effects to neurontin did you experience?

Bob- how do you think TENS works for you? Have you experienced a permanent improvement or is it only better right after you do it?

pim- what do you mean Neurontin "made me stupid"? Do you take BOTH Elavil and Doxepin? How much and how does it help you? Besides drowsiness, what other side effects?

Thank you!


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bowho
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7. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   This forum was down for about a month,so maybe that's why you're having problems?? Who knows? Anyways i had the same effects that Pim describes "case of the stupid mind" that sums it up clearly.. Perpetual lose of thinking clearly.. dazed and confused.. not remembering what words to use while in mid sentence..Its a wonder i didn't kill myself or anyone else while driving,stupid bad mistakes all the time.. Sleeping will take over your life


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Bob
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May-14-09, 07:09 PM (CST)
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8. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   LAST EDITED ON May-14-09 AT 07:09 PM (CST)
 
mjadse,

The TENS unit is just one of several devices I currently use. I sleep with magnets taped to my jaw above the area where I was injected. Got them at biomagscience.net. I also use a piezo electric pen that sends a charge into the area where I was injected. This has helped alot... tends to lessen the burning I have for two or three days at a time. I use it 3 - 4 times a day, sending about 10 jolts at a time. I also treat myself with acupuncture... that's what I do for a living. Needles are placed under my tongue... this has helped me quite a bit although the effects aren't permanent. My burning pain and raw sensations are about 50 - 60% better than one year ago (it'll be two years of pain in July). A couple of months ago I started using a Statison electromagnetic device that sends specific frequencies into my lingual nerve area. These are designed to heal bone fractures but will also heal soft tissue (nerve). This is a veterinary device but a human device is also available for bone healing although it isn't called the Statison. Shortly after using this I got a boost in my relief levels. At the same time I started using medical marijuana... this seems to help with the pain somewhat too. Actually have a prescription for it! Sure takes your mind off the pain for a little while... . I also take Vit. B12 (methyl form) every day along with fish oil, B complex, lecithin and R Lipoic Acid. All help with neuropathic pain. I REFUSE to take any drugs... I hate the side effects and they would only make me more miserable than I already am.

Bob


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nervousmom
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9. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   Hi All,

I am new to this forum, but am very nervous after reading all of the posting. I recently had #32 romoved and have lost feeling in my tongue. I remember in the surgery that at one point I felt a sharp pain that I had to grab my pants to avoid biting my dentist hand off. At that point I knew something was wrong. I can feel every area of my mouth except my right side of my tongue. After reading the postings, I think that I might fall into this category. Any advice would be helpful. I am unable to really speak clearly and afaiad that I'm going to eat my tongue at some point . I just wanted to know if anyone else has had similar problems with their speech, and how did they deal with the problem.

Nervousmom


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Bob
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10. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   nervousmom,

If you have no sensation in your tongue at all you probably have a severed nerve. Not good. Have you seen a microneurosurgeon? That's probably your best bet. Good luck, I'm afraid you're going to need it.

Bob


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mjadse
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11. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   Just to follow up- it's been almost two years since I posted my original message here. It's now been 10 years and I don't have any good news to report. I keep hoping that the pain just has to subside but it's not.

To nervousmom- I too have trouble speaking clearly but I have to say you do get used to that. Sometimes if I speak to quickly, my tongue can't keep up and I slur or get tangled.

In the beginning, the pain was excruciating. It did continue to get better for about the first two years. After that, it has remained the same for the last eight. I constantly research and get recommendations. I've tried medication, but it's just not worth the side effects. I cope by chewing gum- about 10 pieces per day- especially right after I eat.

At least it's not life threatening.


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eastbay1194
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12. "RE: Nerve damage from injection: 8 years."
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   mjdse-

Thank you for following up on your prior posts. This thread describes experiences that are very similar to what I felt when I first got my injury. It was also from an injection, and the right side of my tongue was affected. About a month after the injury, I bit hard enough into my tongue to draw blood. Anyway, like many people on this board, I eventually came to the unfortunate conclusion that the medical world just does not seem to have an answer for this problem. At best, it seems we can do what works best to mask the pain and irritation, and try training our brains to cope with our new state of being.

I'm 6 1/2 years in now, and I also still cope with this injury on a daily basis. I chew gum and suck Jolly Rancher candy pretty much all day. I used to eat Life Savers, but the citric acid started to make my tongue sore all the time. The Jolly Ranchers are milder, but after popping one after the other long enough, these also start to irritate the tongue -- I try to be careful not to eat too many in a short period of time. I don't know if it is even possible that the candy itself could result in permanent damage, but I try to make sure I don't cause any other permanent damage to my tongue.

On my worst days, which seem to correspond directly to times of high stress, I will "ice" my tongue, if possible. I also visit this board to remind myself that I am not totally alone in this (thank God for the internet), and to try venting my thoughts. I've also started keeping a journal, although I am not that great at keeping up with it. I feel like I should at least keep track of the extremely difficult times so I can draw from past experience as I continue to cope with this injury.

You seem to have a healthy outlook on this injury, and I hope you do encounter more improvement at some point. I still feel like I continue to heal, but the pace could not be slower. Sometimes it is so gradual that I do not realize that I am getting better until I think back to times that were much more difficult.

Until this injury, it seems like I was always able to resolve -- or at least avoid confronting -- the problems in my life. This has been the only event that offers no escape (other than sleep), and has truly forced me to accept "coping" as a solution in itself. In this regard, I am still a work in progress.

>Just to follow up- it's been almost two years since I posted
>my original message here. It's now been 10 years and I
>don't have any good news to report. I keep hoping that the
>pain just has to subside but it's not.
>
>To nervousmom- I too have trouble speaking clearly but I
>have to say you do get used to that. Sometimes if I speak
>to quickly, my tongue can't keep up and I slur or get
>tangled.
>
>In the beginning, the pain was excruciating. It did
>continue to get better for about the first two years. After
>that, it has remained the same for the last eight. I
>constantly research and get recommendations. I've tried
>medication, but it's just not worth the side effects. I
>cope by chewing gum- about 10 pieces per day- especially
>right after I eat.
>
>At least it's not life threatening.


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