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john
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May-02-08, 02:30 PM (CST)
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"I'm back!!"
 
  

Hy guys it's me Relicman!..Who the hell really cares anyway right? YES, I still have BMS..3-1/2 years now..Eat and chew gum, the best relief and believe me, meds same old sh-t. Drug yourself all day long
is a good excuse to stay high but does not cure BMS. Just make the drug companies rich, that's all. Lately my posts look like ancient hieroglyphics on the wall.. Because they are! by the time they find a treatment or cure for this our writings will be artifacts!

3-1/2 years of this nightmare!!!



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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: I'm back!! AJ May-04-08 1
  RE: I'm back!! Bob May-04-08 2
     RE: I'm back!! bowho May-04-08 3
     RE: I'm back!! john May-15-08 4
         RE: I'm back!! john May-15-08 5
             RE: I'm back!! diane uk Jul-03-08 6
                 RE: I'm back!! sophiepup Jul-03-08 7
                     RE: I'm back!! shane1 Aug-27-08 10
  RE: I'm back!! churchlady Jul-04-08 8
     RE: I'm back!! Bob Jul-04-08 9

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AJ
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May-04-08, 05:44 PM (CST)
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1. "RE: I'm back!!"
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   Hey John,
Was hoping you were cured. You are a little bit ahead of me, I just turned 3 years. My doc said it will take between 3 to 7 years. It already feels like a lifetime, would just like rid of it. I guess you can tell today is not a good one but not as bad as the beginning. Glad to hear from an ole friend in this, I was beginning to feel lonely.


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Bob
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May-04-08, 07:24 PM (CST)
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   Forgive me, but what is "BMS?". Thanks.


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bowho
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May-04-08, 09:18 PM (CST)
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   BOB... thats burning mouth syndrome..


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john
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May-15-08, 07:19 PM (CST)
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So many times over the years I have mentioned the many different sensations BMS can cause. Classic BMS. Mostly it's the tongue that's affected but on certain occations,some people will feel it burn into the gums. My tongue always feels like sand paper, or the scalded sensation like it has just been burnt with hot coffee. that sensation never goes away. Then the other sensations of salty, sour, bitter. Over the years I have found a way to put it on the back burner,and try to live life but it's always there in the back groud so it's hard to forget totally. When you live with something like this for such a long time after a while you can't remember what a normal sensation feels like and that may be the reason for most of us living and dealing with it. Really it's a terrible disorder and only the sufferers would know.

John


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john
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May-15-08, 08:26 PM (CST)
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Also, Nobody knows what really causes BMS. It is called by the medical comunity as the "Medical Mystery". I could honetly say of all the possibilties I have had many. I do know that the nerves in the tongue are badly damaged. What causes it?. I have had in the years surrounding the start of BMS, everything from Mega atibiotic therapy to root canal, injections, sinus infections, ear infections,some blood loss, acidy stomach etc..All of which have been linked to BMS but they cannot pin it down. Still I'm basically a very healthy person. believe it or not.

When I have acidy drinks like, wine, coffee, juice, etc.. I feel my tongue get REAL GRITTY. it's affected more-so by acidy foods.

I was surprised to find this..
Reading some early health journels, they mention this disorder
which was seen many years ago as a mental disorder. I belive it's
the disoder that make one mental, not the other way around, but
I do admit, if you focus all of your attention on your mouth it definately gets worse and when you're distracted from it, it gets a little better. I would guess since it's attached to the nervous
system this could happen.

Finally,try to find a Dr. that specializes in this or even knows what it is. Are they really researching to find a cure for this or are we all just kidding ourselves? At this point I would go anywhere, to try anything, that could help me.


john


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diane uk
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Jul-03-08, 06:07 AM (CST)
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   Hi John

You sound as miserable as I am about this condition. I've had it for almost 5 years now after some rubbish dentist did a root canal while looking out of the window and drilled too far in. My mouth burns and tingles and the teeth on the right side of my face feel like they're too big for my mouth. The offending tooth was taken out 5 years ago so I now also have a gap which constantly reminds me never to trust a dentist again. I have seen almost all the doctors in my practice and oral surgeons and a neurologist and none of them shows any sympathy. In fact the neurologist seemed to think it was all in my mind as she couldn't see the twitching I was complaining about. Sure, this thing isn't life threatening in itself (which seems to be all they care about) but at my darkest moments I have considered whether life like this is really worth living. I have tried Neurontin and Lyrica to no avail and am now on Benfotiamine and Magnesium but I'm not holding out much hope. I am tired of going back to the doctors so I'm not going any more, I can't stand the humiliation when they can't understand why I'm making such a fuss about a bit of burning/tingling. The twitching is a constant thing now and I'm praying that this means something is happening and maybe I'll get better some time but no-one seems to know if there is any hope or if I have to endure this forever. Does anyone have any info out there about this twitching? I agree that this thing can leve you feeling so alone, like you're the only one in the world with it so I'm so grateful for this website and forum. Good luck to you, John, and everyone else out there.


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sophiepup
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Jul-03-08, 02:35 PM (CST)
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   Hi Diane,

It's so nice to "meet" you. I am alone so far in this BMS thing. I have a "jerk" thing that happens every so often to my jaw. I think it is probably from me clenching my jaw from the burning and pain of the BMS.

I saw several doctors who stared at me funny when I complained about my mouth. Then I found this Miriam Grushka online who had done research into BMS. She is in Canada now I believe. She referred me to an orofacial pain guy in my city. I've seen him once. He seems thorough, totally believes me, but doesn't seem to have any miracle cures. He is starting with the thrush rinse, B vitamins, Klonopin, and an estrogen level. I go back to see him in two weeks. I guess he's throwing the kitchen sink at me. My BMS has gone on about a year. Started around the time of a severe bipolar episode (hospitalization) and my going on a series of many different psych drugs. I am also 49 so menopause may play a role. I also have severe GERD. I'm like a walking ad for BMS.

Thinking of everyone. I know the loneliness and desperation.


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shane1
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Aug-27-08, 12:31 PM (CST)
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   Sophiepup, just reading your words brings me to tears - about the loneliness and desperation. The feeling of being isolated in my suffering (so few people, including most doctors, have even heard of BMS) is made slightly less by reading posts here by people like you. While I've only had this for a little while, I had it or something almost identical about 10 years ago that eventually went away on its own. I can't remember how long it lasted then, but this time it's worse AND I just have a gut feeling that it's not going away this time.
Good luck to you. Know that you are not alone in this awful thing.


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churchlady
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Jul-04-08, 07:08 AM (CST)
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   LAST EDITED ON Jul-04-08 AT 07:09 AM (CST)
 
You now... when I started on this site there were less than a hundred members. I notice now it is over 300. I think we should all go on Oprah.. Can you imagine how many people probably have this .. and aren't aware of this site? You know they must really be lonely.


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Bob
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Jul-04-08, 09:15 PM (CST)
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   I think going on Oprah is an EXCELLENT idea! Really... what better way to inform people of the dangers of modern dentistry. It might even get some of the more dangerous medications (articaine) banned for lower mandibular nerve blocks. Anybody know how to proceed with this?

Thanks churchlady!


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